IMPORTANT
    For the first time in two decades,  there is a major change to the 'structure' of the Sherpa network which is also expanded to incorporate some local services - thus providing better "cross-Snowdonia" journeys - meaning there is now less need than ever to take cars into the National Park

   The most significant changes are routes......
"S1" - Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Llanberis - Caernarfon
  (in lieu of the local "88" and the former "S2")
"S2" - Bangor - Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass  (in lieu of the local "85" also the former 'Park and Ride' from Llanberis)
"S3" - Beddgelert - Caernarfon - Deiniolen  (in lieu of the local "83" and 'part' of the former "S4")
"S4" - Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Pen-y-Pass  (in lieu of the local "S97" and 'part' of the former "S4")
"S5" - "Nant Peris Car Park - Pen-y-Pass "Park and Ride"in lieu of the former "S1" from Llanberis)
    
also the
"T10" TrawsCymru Bangor - Llyn Ogwen - Capel Curig - Betws-y-Coed - Corwen experimental service to provide daily connections into and out of the new hourly "S1" Sherpa at Capel Curig        Despite operators normally being required to give 56 days notice of any change,  the "local Councils" along with "Transport for Wales" have specified the new services and as such there was "LESS THAN THREE WEEKS NOTICE" given to the General Public making planning ahead extremely difficult for potential visitors to the area
     Following on from the ever-changing situation as a result of Covid,  this is no surprise as neither Gwynfor CC nor Conwy CC
(or indeed any of the bus operators) have recently given early notice of changes to the Sherpas OR other local connections - in fact in Snowdonia these have usually been literally just a few days before the alterations came into effect

      In view of the late public advice of the detailed changes to all of the services,  ANY PAGE on THIS website dated before "THURSDAY 24th MARCH" should be regarded as "STILL TO BE FULLY UPDATED"

      Please bookmark this page NOW and return later to see any further changes once the information has been made public..........

..........use the date at the bottom of every page as a quick way to check if it has been amended since your last visit to this page - then ALWAYS CROSS-CHECK WITH THE OFFICIAL COUNCIL AND OPERATOR WEBSITES before setting out



Links to official websites
and contact details





Snowdon Sherpa Bus Timetables
This is an unofficial website
To contact the WEBMASTER please e-mail here
please also do so if you spot any error - so it can be quickly corrected for the benefit of other visitors to this website !
Whilst this website is kept up-to-date with all alterations advised to the webmaster..........
..........many Councils/Operators have been making major short notice mid-timetable changes to their services over the last few months
You are STRONGLY advised to confirm any travel plans from the operator concerned before setting out for Snowdonia.
To assist - a list of these can be found below along with notes of any 'known' errors to help avoid you being "caught out"
Click on any logo to go to that website..........

on the official


No printed copies




































    Their website has been updated to coincide with the new Sherpa network and timetables which commenced on Saturday 9th April 2022
    There is now a much increased summer "S1" service between Betws-y-Coed and Caernarfon
(which now incorporates the former local "88" service between Llanberis and Caernarfon) on both weekdays and Sundays
    In addition the basically hourly former local "85" service between Bangor and Llanberis has been re-branded as the Sherpa "S2" service - with most journeys extended to/from Pen-y-Pass
(this replaces their former Summer Weekend only "S6" Sherpa service to Pen-y-Pass via the Ogwen valley) which is partially replaced by the daily "T10" TrawsCymru service via the Ogwen pass.....
.....details of the alternative new connections at Capel Curig can be found here
    The level of service on the new "S3" Sherpa service has increased between Beddgelert and Caernarfon
(with most journeys extended to either Llanrug or Dinorwig) replacing part of the former local "S4" and "83" services
    Also the service on both the former "S97" and part "S4" services become the re-branded "S4 Sherpa from Pen-y-Pass to Porthmadog and the number of journeys increased
(with much improved "10 "minute" connections off the "S1" from both Betws-y-Coed Llanberis)

  website

BEWARE
    Many bus stop displays throughout the Gwynedd CC area had NOT been updated to reflect the latest position when they were personally checked on Friday 9th April
(the day before the new Sherpa timetable started)
    It is "hoped" that the Council will rectify that shortly - MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION YOU CHECK AT ANY BUS TOP DISPLAY AGREES WITH THE COMMENTS IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN OF THIS PAGE (otherwise the information at that particular stop should be regarded as "STILL TO BE UPDATED" !)


























on the official


No printed copies



























































BEWARE
   Virtually ALL bus departure sheet displays throughout the Counwy CC area no longer shown the actual departure times
- they simply advise to to ring the helpline
    - SO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALREADY CONFIRMED THE TIMES OF ALL YOUR PROPOSED JOUENEYS AS WELL AS ANY LATER 'BACK-UPS' IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A MOBILE PHONE WITH YOU or END UP IN ONE OF THE MANY PHONE SIGNAL "BLIND SPOTS" throught the more mountainous parts of Snowdonia !!!
    The one major exception is Betws-y-Coed where there is now an electronic departure display - primarily as it it now also a 'TrawsCymru' interchange stop !
    Unfortunately that only shows departures for the "next hour" so unlike some other Sherpa stops there is no longer a comprehensive display to allow you to 'plan ahead' or probably FAR MORE IMPORTANT 'how to get back'

    The actual electronic display has been "OUT OF ACTION" for longer periods than it has worked
(personally chcked by your webmaster on numerous occasions during 2022) so unless you have a suitable phone to ring up for details - make sure you have planned your whole day our BEFORE you set off
    Please note when it does work,  it is NOT "real time" so one minute after the booked departure any journey shown simply "falls off the world" irrespective of what is actually happening on the day !!!
     BEWARE
    All Bus Stop displays in the Capel Curig area are STILL showing the 'out of date' Winter Timetable times
    *** As all the Sherpa services were completely revised in April 2022,  this means NONE of the times are correct
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!
    No wonder so many people are having to use their cars,  then being forced to park illegally along the roads of the bus routes through the area when the council fail to show the correct information !!!
    Click here to find "up-to-date" details of the "S1" Sherpa journeys from Capel Curig to Snowdonia and here for the "T10" Traws-Cymru journeys to Llyn Ogwen (for Tryfan)
  website

SHERPA NETWORK
    Their website NO LONGER provides any timetables and is now just a list of "links" to other websites
    In the case of the Sherpas, it simply goes to a page on the Gwynedd CC website displaying an electronic version of the printed leaflet (complete with the errors listed under the Gwynfor entry)

CONNECIONS (or rather LACK thereof) AT BETWS-Y-COED
    


ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE.....!
    Conwy CC - whose job is to co-ordinare bus services in the area have agreed to the advancing of the 1110 "S1" Sherpa by six minutes
(possibly by default as part of the new "Snowdon Sherpa" package rather than design) thus severing the ONLY mid--morning connection from Llandudno to Beddgelert off both the ONLY mid-morning Conwy Valley train AND the local bus service along west side of the Conwy Valley - check here
to see which joueneys do connect AND MORE IMPRORTANT THOSE THAT NO LONGER DO so you do not end up wasting a day !!!
    If this causes you any inconvenience contact the CHAIRMAN of Conwy CC PERSONALLY and ask him to do something about it - IF ENOUGH OF YOU KEEP PESTERING HIM,  SOMETHING MIGHT ACTUALLY BE DONE

     BEWARE
    The last direct northbound bus of the day back to Llandudno departs VERY EARLY at 1715
    This is EXACTLY the same time as the 1623 "T10" TrawsCymru journey from Bangor via Llyn Ogwen
(for Tryfan) arrives and this "very silly" situation has now applied for OVER 12 MONTHS including two timetable changes !
    All it needs is the Council
(with their Transport co-ordinating "hat" on ) to INSIST the last northbound "T19" of the day departs five minutes later at 1720 so a connection appears on the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner"
    No wonder there are so many cars being forced to park illegally along the main "A5" road through the Ogwen Valley when the council does NOT provide a reliable convienient "public transport" alternative for people living in or staying at locations within the Conwy CC area !!!











alternatively try 


No printed copies 

phone:
0800 464 00 00
(between 0700
and 2000 only)














PLEASE NOTE
    Their "Journey Planner" normally requires minimum of five minutes for a connection at any location - this also applies when there is a 'through journey' - often the case on the alternative 'through' journeys at Bangor when the route number changes en-route


    Unfotunately in these cases they automatically advise you to travel an earlier journey and to hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!! (althouigh "some" - but not all - options have since been manually updated)


   "the" official public transport website
IMPORTANT
    The following is included on their website

    04/04/2022 - When accessing your public transport information, please:
  Double check our ‘Short Notice Service Updates’ page for timetable changes.












or the official 


phone:
01248 722 694



Unlike some other
operators in the area,
they do not produce
their own printed copies

However as a one-off,
TfW has produced a bi-lingual coloured leaflet for 2022 to identify the original planned changes

The are several printing errors - especially on the map and since its production many ADVERTISED through Sherpa journeys now require a change of bus en-route, 
so
listen carefully to any announcements by the driver on the day
or you may end up at the wrong location !










    Gwynfor have removed all timetables from their website - instead it now gives a "link" to the Gwynedd CC website for their latest 'official' information
    Their website has been updated to coincide with the new Sherpa network and timetables which commenced on Saturday 9th April 2022
    There is now a much increased summer "S1" service between Betws-y-Coed and Caernarfon
(which now incorporates the former local "88" service between Llanberis and Caernarfon) on both weekdays and Sundays
    In addition the basically hourly former local "85" service between Bangor and Llanberis has been re-branded as the Sherpa "S2" service - with most journeys extended to/from Pen-y-Pass
(this replaces their former Summer Weekend only "S6" Sherpa service to Pen-y-Pass via the Ogwen valley) which is partially replaced by the daily "T10" TrawsCymru service via the Ogwen pass.....
.....details of the alternative new connections at Capel Curig can be found here
    The level of service on the new "S3" Sherpa service has increased between Beddgelert and Caernarfon
(with most journeys extended to either Llanrug or Dinorwig) replacing part of the former local "S4" and "83" services
    Also the service on both the former "S97" and part "S4" services become the re-branded "S4 Sherpa from Pen-y-Pass to Porthmadog and the number of journeys increased
(with much improved "10 "minute" connections off the "S1" from both Betws-y-Coed and Caernarfon/Llanberis)

website

MID-MORNING CONNECTION AT BETWS-Y-COED
    UNFORTUNATELY advancing the 11.10 "S1" Sherpa journey to Caernarfon to 11.04
(on pattern with the rest of the day) means there is NO LONGER the "traditional connctionn" off either the Transport for Wales train or the Llew Jones bus from Llandudno
    The TravelineCymru "Journey Planner" advises you to wait until the next "S1" Sherpa at 12.04 BUT NOTE SPECIALLY THERE IS NO ONWARD CONNECTION at PEN-Y-PASS FOR BEDDGELERT AND PORTHMADOG OFF THTS LATER SHERPA
    IF you want to spend the full day in Snowdonia,  this website advises you to catch the earlier "T19" TrawsCymru journey which depoarts Llandudno at 0905 to ensure you reliably catch the 1104 "S1" Shrepa from Betws-y-Coed

    To be fair to Gwynfor Coaches,  this very "silly" situtation is because Transport for Wales have dictated that the Sherpa buses are contracted to operate at the times specified by them
    They seem to have completely ignored the Conwy Valley train connections even though they also specify AND operate those too !!!!!
    If this causes you inconvenience or addition expense,  COMPLAIN to Transport for Wales at Cardiff - not the poor operator who is only acting as instructed by the transport department of the Welsh Government


PLEASE NOTE
Some 'day-to-day' information can be found here 












or the official 



The "twice-yearly" printed copies were understandably suspended during the Covid pandemic
but TfW appear to have conveniently "forgotten" to print any since that was officially over  !
















    The former Arriva Wales booklets for the North Wales and Cambrian Coasts have simply been reprinted with a new cover
    To find a "Transport for Wales" journey you must look for a train still showing AW (for Arriva Wales  !)
    - surprisingly this is still the case with the revised timetables !!!
    Alternatively use their own 'journey planner' to confirm times providing you already know when and where you want to go !!!


  train website
    All local train services throughout Wales are currently operated
by "Transport for Wales"
    - this includes the connecting Conwy Valley line and
the Cambrian Coast line
    In addition,  a limited number of InterCity services between
North Wales and London continue to be operated by Avanti

UPDATE
    Initially There were are no major changes to the times previously advertised to commence in December 2019
    However to give the 'appearance' of "speeding up" the trains along the North Wales Coast,  several journeys have had important intermediate stops removed - much to the annoyance of the locals who previously used them
.......... an "own goal" is probably the politest way to describe what they have done !!!!!

    In consequence most connections between the North Wales Resort stations and the Conwy Valley Line (and v.v.) have increased CONSIDERABLY - clearly no-one at the Cardiff  HQ 'appears' to care about this totally unnecessary inconvenience

or the official 





No printed copies 









    This company - part of the transport department of the Welsh Government - operate a network of long distance coach journeys across the whole of Wales including the "T19" route which provides connections into the Sherpa from Llandudno and the "T2" route providing the same function from Aberystwyth and Dolgellau,  also Bangor and Caernarfon

  website

TRAWS-CYMRU OPERATORS
    This company has sub-contracted.....
Lloyds Coaches to operate the "T2" Sherpa connections at Porthmadog
and Llew Jones to operte the "T19" Sherpa connections at Betws-y-Coed on their behalf






or the official 


 
printed copies of their Conwy Valley services are sometimes available on the buses
(during the summer)

phone:
01492 640 320
























WINTER 2021 - SUMMER 2022
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Unlike most other operators in the area,  they CONTINUE to operate a much reduced level of winter service along the Conwy Valley
WHICH STILL INCLUDES THE SUSPENSION of ALL EVENING "19" JOURNEYS

    Note specially the LAST return weekday journeys back to Llandudno depart Betws-y-Coed at 1525 ("19" via the west side of the Conwy valley) and 1715 ("T19" via the East side)

    UNBELIEVABLE
Their last Northbound "T19" journey of the day now leaves Betws-y-Coed EXACTLY the same time as 'their' "T10" arrival from Llyn Ogwen  (Note - the "T19" does NOT wait)
- meaning passengers off both this and the mid-afternoon Sherpas this year have to return on the last northbound "T10" journeys via the Ogwen Valley and Bangor
or use the Conwy Valley train

    Even more frustrating,  thanks to the re-cast of the Sherpa network from April,  most of the "traditional" morning journeys from Llandudno
(for a day out in Snowdonia) are NO LONGER advertised to connect into the Sherpas (TravelineCymru require a MINIMUM of five minutes for them to appear on their "Journey Planner") - ALL IT NEEDED WAS FOR THEM TO HAVE BEEN RETIMED SLIGHTLY EARLIER at the same time as the Sherpa changes
   - so much for properly 'integrated timetable planning' which is desperately needed in rural areas if public transport is to survive !!!

  website

    This company operates the weekday and Sunday "19" and "T19" connecting journeys along the Conwy Valley from and back to Llandudno

    In addition they operate the Sunday "link" between Blaenau Ffestiniog and Porthmadog - an 'alternative' to the now VERY LIMITED Sunday Sherpa "S4" journeys which also require an hour's wait at Beddgelert

Some 'day-to-day' information can also be found here 
































 





 new link - with extra information


  Click on map to enlarge




  website
    A new weekdays only Demand Response - "flexi service" operated by Alpine Travel has been introduced (from 9th November) in the 'greater' Llanrwst-Betws-y-Coed are  ( se map on the left for details)

    On Tuesdays,  Fridays and Saturdays it will also extend as far as Corwen on request

    Remember you MUST prebook through "flecsi" stating when and where you want to travel - if you plan to connect into
or out of a Sherpa (or any other bus/train) journey,  make sure you clearly say so when you "book"

    This is particularly important if you want to use it to "link" between a Conwy Valley "19" journey and a Sherpa" where Llew Jones no longer provides a timetabled journey between Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed













or the official 
















printed copies sometimes
available on the bus immediately
after any major change











  website
    This company previously operated the Sunday "S97" Sherpas

  but now only operate some connecting journeys to/from Snowdonia at Llandudno/Llandudno Junction,  Conwy,  Bangor and Caernarfon

PLEASE NOTE
    The five week industrial action by Arriva drivers has been SUSPENFDED to allow further talks..........
..........ALL the Arriva bus journeys which provide connections into and out of the Sherpa network are expected to restart running to the previously advertised times - see here for further details of the connecting journeys involved

    None of this has affected any of the "Sherpa" journey which have continued to operate to their normal WINTER timetables

or the official 


No printed copies











The company has taken over the the
"3B" connecting service between
Blaenau Ffestiniog and Porthmadog









  website
    This company operates connecting journeys from Caernarfon,  Barmouth,  Harlech,  Dolgellau and Blaenau Ffestiniog also the local journeys from Morfa Bychan
    Unfortunately they still INSIST on their ONLY mid-morning "35" journey to Dolgellau from Blaenau Ffestiniog departing at 1130 - JUST AS or slightly BEFORE the ONLY mid-morning Conwy Valley Line train arrives !!!
    On behalf of visitors to this website,  your webmaster did ask them to consider re-timing the bus slightly later,   but a somewhat "unhelpful" reply from their Bethan Jones completely avoided answering the point

PLEASE NOTE
  Some day-to-day information can now also be found here

or the official 




















phone:
01248 600 098
















    Their website is currently "under construction"
    IGNORE their "timetables" link which currently
goes to an OUT OF DATE external website

which also erroneously "suggests" they operate weekday "88" journeys
UPDATE
    They have made major short term changes to the times of some connecting journeys as a result of the post-Coronavirus restrictions
    IN PARTICULAR BEWARE - their last Sunday "88" journeys have been ADVANCED to 1430 from Llanberis * and 1600 from Caernarfon
    * - there WERE later "S2" Sunday westbound (only) journeys operated by Gwynfor departing Llanberis at 1810 and 1910 (summer only),  but from Easter 2021 the 1730 "S2 Sherpa from Betws-y-Coed terminates at Llanberis at 1810..........
..........click here to see what is left
PLEASE NOTE
  Some day-to-day information can now also be found here

or the official 







No printed copies 


  website
  although this company no longer operates Sunday connecting timetabled services from Blaenau Ffestiniog and Caernarfon - it still operates the weekday local service in Blaenau Ffestiniog

 

their former website is no longer
active


  although this company no longer operates connecting
timetabled services from Caernarfon
- it still operates private hire coaches and school buses in the area

PLEASE NOTE
  Some day-to-day information can now also be found here

 
yet another official
website giving
incorrect information !
  the links on this website are all out of date
  in addition the "S6" Sherpa no longer serves Bangor or Betws-y-Coed


.....but do check ANY of the above official websites have been fully updated,
as some are considerably old and (at least partially) out-of-date !!!!
Known errors in official publications are included above
(these 'warning' are there to try to help avoid you being "caught out")



Please remember all official publications were only correct at the time
of going to press, so make sure you also have any relevant amendment leaflets/notices
which may appear as the season progresses

[ If I am advised of any, this website WILL be updated accordingly ]


If you come across any changes not reflected here or you spot any error (or find any broken link)
please e-mail the webmaster so it can be corrected for the benefit of other visitors to this website - thank you !



This website attempts to show what services are currently available
along with those planned for future periods as soon as the information has been announced

In particular it highlights known errors in official publications
in order the help avoid visitors being "caught out" !

It contains composite timetables of connecting services on a cross-Snowdonia route basis
including where a change of bus is necessary --- hopefully it will help you plan your days out

It also includes details of some suggested "trips round Snowdonia - without your car"
including the ability to stop-off en-route - sometimes at more than one location
- then join a later service to continue your trip out
These are shown from both locations within Snowdonia itself
as well as some of which commence on the North Wales and Cambrian Coast resorts
using connecting buses or trains (thus enabling you to leave the car behind and avoid paying any car parking fees !!!)



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Suggested Sherpa Trips
Click here for the latest news about the Sherpa services

Bangor - Snowdonia  (via Llanberis)
Barmouth - Snowdonia  (via Porthmadog)
Bethesda - Capel Curig - Betws-y-Coed
Bethesda - Capel Curig - Llanberis
Betws-y-Coed - Capel Curig - Bethesda
Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Llanberis - Caernarfon
Betws-y-Coed - Llandudno  (connections)
Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Porthmadog
Caernarfon - Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Caernarfon/Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Llanberis
Caernarfon - Beddgelert - Porthmadog
Llanberis Pass --- Park and Ride
Llanberis - Capel Curig - Bethesda
Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Llanberis - Beddgelert - Caernarfon/Porthmadog
Llandudno/Colwyn Bay - Betws-y-Coed  (connections)
Llandudno - Snowdonia  (via Betws-y-Coed)
Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Caernarfon
Porthmadog/Caernarfon - Beddgelert - Llanberis
Porthmadog - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Pwllheli - Snowdonia  (via Porthmadog)

Snowdonia - Bangor  (via Llanberis) 
Snowdonia - Barmouth  (via Porthmadog)
 Snowdonia - Llandudno  (via Betws-y-Coed or Caernarfon) 
Snowdonia - Pwllheli  (via Porthmadog)
Climb Snowdon - with the Sherpas   (summary)
Ride Round Snowdon - with the Sherpas   (summary)

Suggested weekday trips from Barmouth
Suggested weekday trips from Beddgelert
Suggested weekday trips from Bethesda
Suggested weekday trips from Betws-y-Coed
Suggested weekday trips from Caernarfon
Suggested weekday trips from Conwy
Suggested weekday trips from Llanberis
Suggested weekday trips from Llandudno
Suggested weekday trips from Llanrwst
Suggested weekday trips from Porthmadog

Suggested Sunday trips from Barmouth
Suggested Sunday trips from Beddgelert
Suggested Sunday trips from Bethesda
Suggested Sunday trips from Betws-y-Coed
Suggested Sunday trips from Caernarfon
Suggested Sunday trips from Conwy
Suggested Sunday trips from Llanberis
Suggested Sunday trips from Llandudno
Suggested Sunday trips from Llanrwst
Suggested Sunday trips from Porthmadog

Suggested weekday trips from
Suggested Sunday trips from
North Wales Coast Railway stations
(via Betws-y-Coed)

Later non-Sherpa weekday journeys from......
Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Beddgelert area to Llanberis
Betws-y-Coed area to Llanberis
Porthmadog area to Llanberis
Llanberis area to Porthmadog area
Later non-Sherpa Sunday journeys from......
Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Beddgelert area to Llanberis
Betws-y-Coed area to Llanberis
Porthmadog area to Llanberis
Llanberis area to Porthmadog area
Additional and updated pages are in the process of being prepared - please bookmark this page and keep returning for the very latest information available


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