SUMMER SUNDAY TRIPS by RAIL and SNOWDON SHERPA via Betws-y-Coed Transport for Wales Conwy Valley Line train   Llew Jones Conwy Valley "19" connection   from  Chester Prestatyn   Rhyl Colwyn Bay   Llandudno to  Pen-y-Pass Llanberis  Beddgelert Aberglaslyn   Porthmadog       "S2" Betws-y-Coed - Llanberis    Gwynfor Sherpa        "S4" Pen-y-Pass - Caernarfon     "Suggested itineries" are shown below and they can all be done for just £14.10 from Llandudno/Colwyn Bay - 2 zones (£24.00 from Rhyl or Prestatyn - 3 zones     £38.00 from Chester - all zones *)  using the "North Wales Day Rover" (which includes all main line trains and the "whole of the Sherpa Network") Purchase at your first station or from the driver of your first connnecting bus (* - a discount is available for a "railcard" holder if booked at a station) LATEST.......... There are minor changes to the times of the Conwy Valley Railwy Line trains and some North Wales Coast train connections from Sunday 15th May This does NOT effect the times of any Sherpa journeys All the regular "S1" connecting Sherpa services are operated by 'Gwynfor Coaches' and run every day throughout the year # providing direct connections to ....... Caernarfon via Pen-y-Pass - (start of the main tracks up Snowdon) and Llanberis also more limited "S4" Sherpa connections at Pen-y-Pass to Beddgelert (for "S3" connections to Caernarfon) also "S4" connections to Porthmadog) # - except Christmas Day,  Boxing Day and New Year's Day

Sundays - 15th May 2022  until further notice also Public Holidays Late Spring Weekend Thursday 2nd June  Platinum Jubilee Bank Holiday 3rd June and Late Summer Weekend Monday 29th August
see VERY important note above
Click here for suggested Monday to Saturday itineries
"Trips round Snowdonia - without your car" from North Wales Coast Railway Stations out and return via the Conwy Valley Line and Betws-y-Coed (the "Gateway to Snowdonia")
Outward train times latest times should be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official T for Wales website
	Chester (T for Wales) dep   j		0900				1201
	Flint (T for Wales) dep   j		0912				1216
	Prestatyn (T for Wales) dep   j		0925				1229
	Rhyl (T for Wales) dep   j		0931				1235
	Colwyn Bay (T for Wales) dep   j		0940				1246
	The Conwy Valley Line
	Llandudno (T for Wales) dep		10.22				13.28
	Deganwy (T for Wales) dep   R		10.26R				13.32R
	Llandudno Junction (T for Wales) dep		10.34				13.40
	Llanrwst arr		10.57				14.03
	Betws-y-Coed ("The Gateway to Snowdonia") arr		11.03				14.09
	Blaenau Ffestiniog (for 'local' bus to Porthmadog) arr		11.36				14.41
	j - change trains at Llandudno Junction     R - by request
	Betws-y-Coed "S1" Sherpa dep  (platform 2 layby)     turn right outside the main entrance		11.04*	12.04			14.04*	15.04
			for Pen-y-Pass  Llanberis or Caernarfon and return (also connections at Pen-y-Pass for Beddgelert or Porthmadog and return) alternatively trips right round Snowdon) off the morning train
			Llyn Gwynant                     Snowdon and Twin Lakes                        Llanberis Pass
			An alternative "quicker" non-Sherpa connection to Porthmadog is available via Blaenau Ffestiniog  (departing 1200)
Capel Curig and Twin lakes           Nant Gwynant Pass            Aberglaslyn Pass BETWS-Y-COED <---> Pen-y-Pass <---> Beddgelert <---> Porthmadog                                                                                    /|\                             /|\                            /|\                                                                                    |                              |                            |                                                      Llanberis Pass     |       SNOWDON                |                                                                                    |                                            |                                                                                     \|/                                           \|/                                                                            Llanberis  <------------>   Caernarfon
	Suggested Sherpa itineraries latest bus times should be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC website
	Click here for a selection of trips round Snowdonia from Betws-y-Coed station (exit station and turn right to the "Platform 2" bus stop at the layby) Passengers already holding a "North Wales Day Rover" can travel free on all the Sherpa and TrawsCymru connecting buses Anyone without a combined train/bus ticket should purchase a £5.70 "1 bws" (one bus) day ticket" to cover ALL bus journeys from the driver of your first bus
Return train times latest times should be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official T for Wales website
	Porthmadog	-	-	1640 (1S)	-	1530	-	-	1840 (1S)	-
	Beddgelert	-	-	| | | | | | | | \|/	-	1555	1658	-	| | | | | | | | \|/	-
	Llanberis Joe Brown	14.02	16.02		-	-	|	17.02		18.02
	Pen-y-Pass	14.30	16.30		-	-	1720	17.30		18.30
	Capel Curig	14.39	16.39		-	-	-	17.39		18.39
	Betws-y-Coed	14.54	16.54		-	-	-	17.54 $		18.54
	The Conwy Valley Line					Llew Jones bus 19 #
	Blaenau Ffestiniog (T for Wales) dep	14.59	-	1708	17.28		-	-	1908	20.20
	Betws-y-Coed (T for Wales) dep	15.25	17.55			The later 1840 bus is currently SUSPEN -DED	-	20.47
	Llanrwst (T for Wales) dep	15.31	18.01				-	20.53
	Llandudno Junction (T for Wales) arr	15.59	18.30				-	21.22
	Deganwy (T for Wales) arr R	1607Rj	18.36R				-	21.28R
	Llandudno (T for Wales) arr	1614j	18.43				-	21.35
	Llandudno Junction (T for Wales) dep   j	1625	1924			2041	-	2139
	Colwyn Bay (T for Wales) arr   j	1631	1930			2047	-	2145
	Rhyl (T for Wales) arr   j	1644	1943			2059	-	2156
	Prestatyn (T for Wales) arr   j	1649	1949			2104	-	2202
	Flint (T for Wales) arr   j	1703	2002			2117	-	2215
	Chester (T for Wales) arr   j	1720	2022			2136	-	2233
	12.04 - Sherpa journey
	j - change trains at Llandudno Junction     R - calls by request
	# - Conwy Valley bus "19" - North Wales Day Rover ticket valid
	1640 - alternative local bus service connecting into the train at Blaenau Ffestiniog
* - whilst in theory it is sometimes just possible to catch the earlier "S1" Sherpa journey from Betws-y-Coed   -   but as it is less than 5 minutes, it is NOT recognised as a connection     by the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner"..........but if the train is spot on time (or the Sherpa is running slightly late AND you are very quick,  it will get you Pen-y-Pass or Llanberis or Caernarfon much earlier     Although this website does NOT advise you to risk it,  if 'on the day' you alight quickly from the train (providing it is "spot on time"),  go through the archway     then turn right and "Platform two" bus stop lay-by (about a two minute walk you may just be lucky and catch the earlier Sherpa     - otherwise it is an hour's "coffee break" before for the next Sherpa at 13.04         UNFORTUNATELY "Transport for Wales" have kept gradually re-timing their ONLY mid-morning Conwy Valley later and later and later     All it needs is for this train to start from Llandudno at 1010, Llandudno Junction arrive 1019, depart 1021 on both weekdays and Sundays and run correspondingly EARLIER along the Conwy Valley so the Sherpa connections would become reliable - as they were in the former British Rail days     Doing so would also re-instate the "broken" 1101 onward connection to Llyn Ogwen (for Tryfan) at Betws-y-Coed ..........unfortunately as this IS NOW THE ONLY REASONABLE OUTWARD     "FULL DAY" CONNECTING JOURNEY OF THE DAY TO VISIT SNOWDONIA    - it is PROBABLY THE WORST EXAMPLE of FAILED 'RAIL-BUS'     INTEGRATED TIMETABLE PLANNING IN SNOWDONIA      - if this causes you inconvenience or additional costs,  write/phone/email the operator (Transport for Wales)     and the Chief Executive of Conwy CC PERSONALLY and ask them to retime the train to start at 1010    If enough of you keep pestering them,  perhaps something will actually be done !!!
$ - whilst in theory it is sometimes just possible to catch the earlier Conwy Valley train from Betws-y-Coed   -   as it is less than 5 minutes     it is NOT recognised as a connection by the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner"..........but if the Sherpa is spot on time (it does sometimes arrive Betws-y-Coed a coluple of mnutes early)     or the train is running slightly late AND you are very quick,  it will get you back to the North Wales Coast much earlier     If you miss the train,  there in an alternative 1901 T10" TrawsCymru Coach to Bangor station which connects into the earlier 2015 train along the North Wales Coast     back towards Chester,  rather than waiting for the later 2047 Conwy Valley train    Alternatively plan to alight at Capel Curig and catch the 1713 or 1913 "T19" TrawsCymru coach to Bangor via the Ogwen pass - making a circular trip
latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC or Conwy CC websites  and any subsequent amendments thereto

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	Later non-Sherpa weekday journeys from...... Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Beddgelert area to Llanberis Betws-y-Coed area to Llanberis Porthmadog area to Llanberis Llanberis area to Porthmadog area	Later non-Sherpa Sunday journeys from...... Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Beddgelert area to Llanberis Betws-y-Coed area to Llanberis Porthmadog area to Llanberis Llanberis area to Porthmadog area
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